Taurus Millennium Pro PT-145 -- Movie Please Watch

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Taurus Millennium Pro PT-145 -- Movie Please Watch

Tye G. Wolfe
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On doing my usual scan for tid bits of information to be passed along I ran into this safety flaw with the Taurus Millennium Pro PT-145. One reason bring this up is because I know of a couple members here that own these weapons and wish no harm to happen to anyone. Knowing that the best safety to have is to keep your finger off the trigger, there can always be that one time when we might slip. It may never happen but to be warned is another step in firearms safety.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnzBhMWuWJw&feature=related

I hope this helps inform those that have this particular pistol. As I was looking at buying one I am aware but I am still thinking about buying one. I think they are fantastic handguns.

Take care,
Tye
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Tye, I'm going to have to disagree with the man who made the video. I have NEVER had this pop up as an issue and it is not one that I regard as a FLAW, I look at it more as being "operator error! .... I can prove that almost every semi-auto pistol has a FLAW..... limp wrist most semi-autos and what happens.... they jam and fail to eject.
Also, some semi autos don't like the rookie error of holding the trigger all the way back and not letting the trigger reset after each shot. Once the slide closes they let off and the trigger doesn't fall forward on its own. But all of these are not gun FLAWS, they are more of an operator error than flaw in design or manufacture.

              When I first met the Taurus Millenium, I'll admit I wasn't its biggest fan. I did need some time to adjust to its size and looks. The first generation of them did not float my boat as the new ones do. I am a Glock lover over most else when it comes to plastic guns. the Springfield Xd's and XDM's have never changed that. After shooting the XD's (and M's) and the Taurus guns (Milleniums and 24/7's) I personally decided to go with the PT-145 Millenium Pro. It is a small .45acp that shoots accurately, looks good and is very comfortable to carry concealed. The damn thing carries 11 rounds in it and you can go for 13 if you put the 12 round mags from the 24/7 in it. yes, they do fit and only stick out from the base a hair or two. I have taken them apart, I have massaged them, I have worked on them and have made them look even better. I am amazed at what Taurus was able to do with such an affordable gun. How did they get such a short barrel to shoot so well. I have not experienced one jam or malfunction with mine. In fact i love it so much that i cannot stop reccomending it. I carry one every day because I trust it with my life! I have been carrying a gun on me for 20 years (personally and professionally) and I can honestly say, the Taurus is a close favorite for the top spot in the guns I have had on my hip. I have fired many rounds with 24/7's and only have come to appreciate Taurus as a gun maker even more. No gun is perfect, but these new Taurus models come close to it and they do not deserve to have some nervous nilly trying to scare people into thinking them as being FLAWED.
A new gun owner should always read their owners manual and know how to operate his or her gun safely. The last thing we want to do as gun owners and enthusiats is give the anti-gun people a reason to say..."oh no, see, we told you guns are dangerous".
Next we'll see Taurus going out of business because of a lawsuit after some injury lawyer sees stuff like this and tries to put it in as evidence of negligence and the gun maker sued for a million, jillion dollars. Be careful what you say and how you say it.... it could happen.

I hope none of this sways anyone away from purchasing one of these fine guns. Please understand that this is all about someone doing the wrong thing at the wrong time. Thousands of people use these guns everyday without any problems. They are great guns and I HIGHLY reccomend them.

PS - My safety can't engage at all. I took my gun apart and locked it out so the safety lever cannot engage. WHY? Simple.... I never want to have to draw my gun, pull the trigger and hear "CLICK"! This philosophy comes from being a Glock owner for so long. Pull the trigger and gun goes BANG! I feel comfortable with this because of my level of experience and I KNOW TO KEEP MY FINGER OFF OF THE TRIGGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tye G. Wolfe
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John...

I was somewhat surprised with your answer. We have to remember that everyone should have the right to voice his or her opinion and in this case he was not really even stating an opinion. He stated that he did not even know about the issue with the PT-145 until the range officer showed him what could happen. We have to remember that he too purchased a PT-145 and said he would continue to shoot it. To me if someone knows or has heard about a particular issue with a gun then it must have happened to at least one person to start the investigation concerning the issue. I am not defending anyone other than to thank this person to have the balls to post something like this. I am sure he will get a lot of bad responses from those that have purchased the PT-145 just like yourself. Also know that I am seriously thinking about getting one for myself even with the knowledge of this issue.

I also have to agree with him and you in that the best safety is keeping the ol' bugger hook off the bang stick. If your finger is not on the trigger then there should be no problem. I will also comment on his use of the word "Flaw". You have to remember that not everyone has as good a knowledge base in relation to proper words to use in relation to firearms. I would not call this a "flaw". I would however say that there is an issue inherent to the use of the thumb safety but as long as the thumb safety is used in the proper manner I see no issue to be addressed. In addressing this I could say that there is a "flaw" in every 1911 style pistol because you can put the thumb safety on, put your trigger finger on the trigger pushing back and then by releasing the thumb safety the gun will fire. Is this a flaw? NO. Does it concern me? Yes it does. But it is the way the gun was designed and as long as you keep your finger off the trigger until you intend to fire you can safely take the safety off without any problem. I could post this and say there should be some sort of interrupter that will not allow the gun to fire until the pressure is taken off the trigger when the safety is released. Just remember this fellow was just passing along information he thought was important and actually I have to agree with him. It is important. We all need to know as much as we can when it comes to the guns we use. To be informed only makes us that much more safe. We can never be to safe.

I hope you don't take this as a jab to either you or the Taurus PT-145. I am not necessarily totally backing the original poster to the You Tube link or the others who have also posted about this issue but I do agree that what they are showing us should be shown. I hope you can agree that knowledge about our weapons is paramount for as long as we know the issues we can avoid them, thus not allowing the gun grabbers to have any more ammunition to use against us. We all need to know if there is something that needs to be known.

I do understand your point and I do agree with you. But I also understand the position of the poster of the You Tube videos and agree with them as well. It is something we all need to address and use the right way. That is to maintain a degree of safety beyond what masses may think correct.

I hope this makes sense as like you I find myself posting at times when the brain is not totally working right.

Nuf'Fo'Now
Tye
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Tye, you said....."the best safety is keeping the ol' bugger hook off the bang stick"

HAHAhahahahahahhahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!

I never heard that expression before. It is hilarious!

I am much calmer now, so I can discuss the manner. I must say that your response has calmed me a bit. I do agree with you that people should let others know about issues with certain guns. My problem was the guy in the video seems like he's trying to ALERT us all to a DANGER that comes from the FLAW he is reporting on. I would prefer (as I said) that people research the manner and present it properly so as not to scare people away from a fantastic self defense firearm or give anti gunners ammunition to use against the gun industry or owners. With the runnaway leftist media feeding the flames of any and all fears we have to be more responsible in how we use, represent and talk about firearms. I'm glad that you agree on the term FLAW in regards to this issue.

Glad to have ya' back, Tye. I hope you are feeling better! And thanks for helping not to see so much red with this issue.
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Tye G. Wolfe
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John...

When I encounter something I don't really agree with I will usually take a couple steps back, take a look at it again and wait a day or so before I say anything. I used to confront things striaght up and on the moment until I figured it was best to give it a little thought before I said anything. It's not that you are wrong in what your saying but sometimes it is best to put yourself in the other guys shoes for a bit and try to figure out exactly what he is saying. I really think that this guy was really worried about the situation and it may have been told to him in a way that it sounded more dangerous then it really is. With that in mind and the guy more than likely not really being versed in what I call "Gunology", he just made it sound worse than it really is. I am sure, like you, there are a number of owners of this weapon that are not making much of the issue and letting it go for what it is. It is something to be aware of and just guard against it happening with your own weapon.

Like I said, the best safety is keeping the ol' bugger hook off the bang stick.

Thanks for keeping track of me. If you don't I have no idea who will.

Take care,
Tye