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Tye G. Wolfe
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Do you have a weapon that not many would have? Here is your chance to share with everyone that special or possibly just odd ball firearm. You would be amazed at some of the things the firearm industry has come up with in all the years of production. Things like semi-auto revolvers and revolvers that can fire 20 rounds with two barrels to a semi-auto that carries a 100 round capacity. If you by chance own something out of the norm by all means this is the place to post a picture. Even if you happen to run across a picture of something you think others may not have seen, this is the perfect place to share with others who might enjoy that one of a kind oddity.

Take care,
Tye
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Tye G. Wolfe
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A little something special to me.

Calico MP-100P magazine capacity 100 rounds .22Lr.




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Tye G. Wolfe
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In doing some research about the .25acp cartridge, I ran across something rather interesting. I would have to say this is definitely a one of a kind item.

Marlin .22lr bolt action rifle converted to .25acp.

Marlin .25acp rifle right side

Marlin .25acp rifle left side

Marlin .25acp rifle magazine feed

Marlin .25acp rifle bolt feed

Marlin .25acp rifle magazine

Converted Bolt

Firing pins

New Barrel and Receiver group

First Target
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Both the 100 rounder and the .25acp conversion rifle are unique and I'm glad you shared them with us. The .22 Calico looks like a perfect project gun. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
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Tye G. Wolfe
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John...

I can think of all sorts of things that could make the Calico even more special then it is right now. It almost scares me to think of the things you could do with it. I used to have something called a BMF activator on it. The BMF activator is a crank type device that turned the Calico into a hand held Gatling Gun. It was neat to "crank" out 100 rounds as fast as you could turn the handle. And if you did it right you could actually do it with a fair degree of accuracy.

Can you imagine one of these as a full automatic? Awesome!

Take care,
Tye
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I love the Calicos, I used to see them around but don't really see them anymore. I would love to process the high capacity rotary mag, I bet it would revive the spring, help it to last and allow the gun to cycle better. There is no doubt the bolt actions would be ultimate tack drivers.
www.cajuncryogenics.com
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Tye.... David is right. the Calico would be ripe for cryo. OOooohhhhhhhhhh.......... my head is spinning. I think we have found the franjenstein Monster of a Christmas gift for you. Think about this!

Send the gun to me (owner to FFL)
We cryo the gun..... On me
Then I put whatever high performance coating in whatever color(s) you want....again, on me!
And lastly..... I send the gun back to you (FFL to owner)..... my treat on return

We of course shall document your guns journey and then you do a write up here on how you like or dislike the NEW version of your gun. It's make one hell of a project story on our website for others to foolow. I'd do each stage with an article and pictures as an on going mini-series.

The offer is there my friend!

P.S. Please send hand crank with gun.... ahem.... for testing purposes!
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Tye G. Wolfe
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On Target LLC wrote
Tye.... David is right. the Calico would be ripe for cryo. OOooohhhhhhhhhh.......... my head is spinning. I think we have found the franjenstein Monster of a Christmas gift for you. Think about this!

Send the gun to me (owner to FFL)
We cryo the gun..... On me
Then I put whatever high performance coating in whatever color(s) you want....again, on me!
And lastly..... I send the gun back to you (FFL to owner)..... my treat on return

We of course shall document your guns journey and then you do a write up here on how you like or dislike the NEW version of your gun. It's make one hell of a project story on our website for others to foolow. I'd do each stage with an article and pictures as an on going mini-series.

The offer is there my friend!

P.S. Please send hand crank with gun.... ahem.... for testing purposes!
John...

As much as I would like to turn you loose on the Calico I just don't know if that is the weapon I would like to have your very welcomed Christmas present done too.  I am sure that with the proper selection of colors and coatings as well as the Cryo treatment would really make the Calico shine, but I just don't know if that is the firearm I would want such a wonderful gift applied to. Right now the most important gun in my armory is my carry piece and that is my Star Firestar Plus. I have no problem in allowing you to document every step in the process but the Calico I have even been thinking of selling. I think you would agree with me that I should do the most important weapon I have to undergo the entire process just as you have had all your most important if not all of your guns treated. Let me think this over and I am sure regardless of the weapon I select it will be the right weapon to have done.

Choice to come later and really I can't thank you enough,
Tye
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At our shop.... the customer is always right.... and that applies still to you Tye. I just get excited easy and the things that ran through my head when I saw your little hundred rounder. Oooooooooooh.... my head was spinning.

Take your time and decide what you want done to which gun..... ya' know this might get interesting if I put you under a time limit...... GO! The clock is ticking and this message will self destruct in five seconds.................. BOOM!!!!!!!

Just kidding..........take your time. (For all I know you may be thinking about not trusting my big dumb ass with any of your guns... including SNS's) Okay........ I'm joking again....or am I?
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Tye G. Wolfe
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At our shop.... the customer is always right.... and that applies still to you Tye. I just get excited easy and the things that ran through my head when I saw your little hundred rounder. Oooooooooooh.... my head was spinning.

Take your time and decide what you want done to which gun..... ya' know this might get interesting if I put you under a time limit...... GO! The clock is ticking and this message will self destruct in five seconds.................. BOOM!!!!!!!

Just kidding..........take your time. (For all I know you may be thinking about not trusting my big dumb ass with any of your guns... including SNS's) Okay........ I'm joking again....or am I?
John...

You really don't even need to say anything like that. If there were anyone I would trust with my firearms it would be you. I could tell that you were excited about the Calico and if I didn't have thoughts of making my primary carry gun more reliable then it already is then hands down the Calico would be winging its way to you with a description of what to do knowing that you would enjoy yourself tremendously in sending a few hundred rounds down range in short order. But that Star is precious to me and if there were one gun I would risk my butt with it would be it. It has never failed me in the entire time I have owned it and proven itself time and again. Heck, I am even choosing Spanish steel over my Kimber Ultra Carry II and to many that would be sacrilege. I bet there are even dead 1911 shooters spinning in their graves over a decision like this but I will think it over before I make up my mind the I assure you. I will not take such a wonderful gift lightly. I truly did not anticipate such a gift even being offered.

Take care,
Tye
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Kevin D.
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Tye G. Wolfe wrote
 Heck, I am even choosing Spanish steel over my Kimber Ultra Carry II and to many that would be sacrilege. I bet there are even dead 1911 shooters spinning in their graves over a decision like this but I will think it over before I make up my mind the I assure you. I will not take such a wonderful gift lightly. I truly did not anticipate such a gift even being offered.

Take care,
Tye

nah, some of them may question your choice, but in the end what you choose to carry is YOUR decision.  take john's little blue gun, its so well BLUE! and a little on the girlie side () but its his choice. and in his favorite caliber i might add. i wouldnt be too concerned, unless he starts packing something thats pink or purple
 ‎"its not the caliber, and its not the gun. its how well you perform, that completes the task at hand
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Tye G. Wolfe
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Kevin D. wrote
Tye G. Wolfe wrote
 Heck, I am even choosing Spanish steel over my Kimber Ultra Carry II and to many that would be sacrilege. I bet there are even dead 1911 shooters spinning in their graves over a decision like this but I will think it over before I make up my mind the I assure you. I will not take such a wonderful gift lightly. I truly did not anticipate such a gift even being offered.

Take care,
Tye

nah, some of them may question your choice, but in the end what you choose to carry is YOUR decision.  take john's little blue gun, its so well BLUE! and a little on the girlie side () but its his choice. and in his favorite caliber i might add. i wouldnt be too concerned, unless he starts packing something thats pink or purple
Kevin...

I agree that it should be my choice but there are so many that have nothing but negative things to say about Spanish steel that I can't believe it. And the worst of it is that those speaking out the loudest have never owned or fired to any great extent the weapons I like so much. I could say the same thing about German or Italian steel and would be ostracized from the shooting world. I really don't care what a gun looks like but its performance is absolutely necessary. Usually when I am talking to someone about their gun I will often be heard to say "that's a nice looking gun, how does it shoot and how accurate is it". You will probably find it almost annoying but I will almost get on others nerves by referring to accuracy. To me that is what makes a gun a gun. Not just that it can throw lead down range but how well can it do it and where do the bullets end up. I like seeing one hole groups.

Take care,
Tye
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Hey Kevin.... pick on me, not my little blue smurf gun. What did it ever do to you? Mike at the range told me it was "Fairy Nice"!.............. hahahahaaaaaaaaaa I could have kicked his "very nice" ass!!!!

Tye, I once had a spanish made pistol, but I don't remember it being a Star. It was a 9mm semi auto. I saw it in a pawn shop in New Orleans a long time back and liked the way it looked so I bought it for $200. The finish was pooped out, but i had already started re-finishing guns as a hobby back then and I gave it a jet black look. I believe it was originally a blued steel. I shot the heck out of it and sold it to a co-worker for $600. He loved the little gun too. I say little but it was dang near a 1911 sized gun. The more I write the more I'm starting to think it was a Star! Hmmmmmm..... not sure. I'll have to check the books and find out what it was, or i'll go nuts trying to remember.
About accuracy, most modern guns with a few exceptions are pretty much accurate (Smith and Wesson Sigmas can be off sometimes). I think when you ask people if their gun is accurate, you should also follow up with "are you?"
The gun may be doing its job but the shooter may think he's got cruise control and not put much effort into it. I cannot tell you how many times (a freak'n lot) I hear some guy or gal at the range say "my sights or off", or "this gun is not very accurate"! I ask if I can try out their "NOT SO ACCURATE GUN WITH OUT OF ADJUSTMENT SIGHTS" and knock bullseyes out of the park. I'm not always at the TOP of my game, but I know when it is ME and when it is the gun. I do so much self-defense style shooting with point aim and not using the sights, that I have to force myself to go to the range and re-teach myself the use of sights. I do so much BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG type shooting that I forget to take my time with each shot for precision target shooting. I also use and shoot so many different guns now that I don't have time for just ONE gun. Thank God that mixing it up does come with some benefits and my overall shooting experience increases. I like to use Flash Sight picture shooting at close ranges, but you can't shoot that way out to 25 yards. I am going to be working on that soon. I'm going to try and get some distance/accuracy shooting into my schedule. I will focus exclusively on 9 inch targets at 25 yards. I haven't done that in a while and it should be fun and interesting to get the rust off and take a break from defensive styles of shooting.
My one and only true carry pistol is my trusted Colt Combat Commander. More people have asked to shoot that gun more than any other I own. They have seen me do micro surgery with it and they find out just how easy a perfect gun can help their shooting as well. Right now my baby is all apart and is going to have a massive overhaul. I'm thinking about chronicling its journey to re-birth. I'm not sure. I may have to keep this one private. I like to go to one of our outdoor ranges and shoot 9 inch meytal plates at 25yards with it. It sounds like this..... ding, ding, ding, ding..... with that gun I am on FIRE. I know the gun, I know just where to put my sights and most times I don't have to think about shot placement.... it just happens. I would love to see a one hole target, but I'm happy with many holes in the right place and that's what I can trust my Colt for.

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Tye G. Wolfe
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John...

You don't know how many times I have done exactly the same thing. All to often the gun is blamed for inaccuracy when in reality it is the shooters inability to shoot the gun.

I have owned many Spanish made firearms as well as French made guns and I hear that "never shot and dropped once" comment all to often. All I can say is that it is all the better for me. I will be more than happy to buy the gun off the person in a heart beat. The real problem is that once the person actually shoots his Spanish steel they are all to often swayed into brotherhood. After that he ends up being someone I have to battle to get the Spanish guns I want.

I bet if you think real hard you will no doubt remember that the gun you had was a Star. They make a number of guns along the lines of John Moses Browning's patents and look much like 1911's but have the necessary changes. Usually they are changes actually for the better. I have yet to meet a Star that was not a very fine weapon. Unless it was just totally ignored and had gone to rot. The Star's I really love are the .22lr's and the reduced size 1911 like weapons in .32acp and .380acp. They are locked breech and can take any load you give them including the current +P loads and you can actually hot rod them a bit in reloads.

I used to have a Colt Commander Lightweight that was just an awesome piece. As usual I ran into a situation where I needed money. I bought the Commander for $350.00 as I remember and after about 10 years I sold it for I think $600.00 to someone who just had to it. I really wish I had that gun back but as always we have 20/20 hindsight. I will forever make mistakes in selling my guns. Just like my recent sale of my Colt AR-15. I don't miss it right now but you can bet I will be saying the same thing about selling it. But getting back to the subject of Spanish Steel, I have never been let down by any Star or Llama that I have ever owned.

Take care,
Tye
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I just aquired a special type of firearm that was somewhat unique to me. I shot this gun before with the original owner and he knew how much I liked it. Last week he came by the shop and dropped it off to me. He just got a new rifle from us and wanted to make some room in his safe for it. He says this gun is getting to be too much for him to handle so he figured since I liked it, I'd give it a new and loving home.
This is a custom barrelled Siamese Mauser bolt-action. It still has all of the Siamese markings and stamps. It used to be chambered for an 8mm round and now it's set up for the 45-70 cartridge. It has an original wooden stock with a steel butt plate and let me tell you it can kick your shoulder out of socket with the big stuff loaded in it. The barrel has no finish on it and comes with some very nice iron sights. I'm sending it off to cryo tomorrow and then will be scrapping the wooden stock in favor of a newer tactical stock or a big wooden custom  stock. I've got two ideas in my head and I'm not sure yet what I want to do..... but it is either going to be done up as a tactical looking big bore or it's going to get the big bore hunter look. I'm so confused........  
It'll get a bi-pod, a scope mount and scope, plus a big, thick sling either which way I go. But I will say this..... It will most likely have a big honkin' muzzle brake too!






This is a pic to compare the size differences between a .45acp on the left
A 45-70 in the middle
and a .38 Special cartridge on the right!
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Tye G. Wolfe
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John...

I looks like you have come into one heck of a nice rifle. I have heard that the Siamese receiver was one of the stronger receivers to work with and many were actually were converted to .45-70. I may be mistaken but I thought the original caliber the Siamese Mauser came in was 8x52Rmm. Being chambered for this rimmed cartridge made it somewhat easy to convert to the rimmed .45-70 cartridge. I don't know your exact plans for this monster but it should make one hell of a hunting rifle. The .45-70 is known for its ability to buck its way through brush to eventually hit its target. I think it would make a far better hunting rifle than a tactical unit just mainly due to its lack of range. But heaving a 300 to 400 grain projectile between 1400 - 1500 fps would stop anything within 200 yards with even a glancing blow. Just think of the number of Bison that were taken with this round. Adding the muzzle break I have to say is a wise choice. It will help in reducing recoil and depending on the one you chose can also reduce muzzle blast.

I want to thank you greatly at giving us a look at her before the face lift you have planed and I am sure that what ever you do will allow her to breath the fresh air of a new life.

Take care,
Tye
P.S. > I can't wait for a range report. I would have loved to see what she could do before and after the Cryo!
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She was undressed and being placed in the cryo chamber today. Some of the loads I'm studying give the 45-70 more than 1500 fps. I'm looking into some very heavy hitting 500 grain custom bullets right now. Of course, I'll have to put my new tech to work on this round so I can test them myself. I'm thinking of some very good improvements. Dave just treated another 45-70 rifle and there has been some good things seen as far as results go. He has it listed in the cryo section.
You are right about the siamese Mauser Tye. I listed it just by the first number "8", but it is an 8x52! The mag was set up for the rimmed cartridge and made an easy convert to the 45-70 especially with the beefy receiver. I FREAKN' Love it!!!!
I have found the new stock already. It's affordable and comes in black.... but it is made of European Birch. I just have to figure out how I'm going to finish the gun.... black, camo, strpe type camo, snakeskin....WHAT?
It will have a new dropped bolt with a nice screw on tactical knob.
........As if I didn't have enough guns to think & plan about and drool over.....! Sheesh!
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Tye G. Wolfe
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John...

I am sure once she is finished she will be a beautiful sight to see. Damn I wish I lived closer so that I could get first hand views on all these wonderful guns you seem to get coming into your shop. I can bet there are days everyone in the shop is walking around with drool buckets under their chins.

I remember reading about the Siamese Mauser so many years ago I can't remember but I do remember them saying that it was one of the stronger Mauser actions. When they were brought into the US the ammo was all military surplus and no one was loading ammo for the 8x52Rmm. Because the rim of the 8x52R and the .45-70 were almost the same the conversion was a simple barrel change with proper head space and you had one brush busting hunting rifle. When I first saw your pictures the first thing I thought of was to see about bending the bolt for scope use. I have never done this myself but with the right tools you should be able to bend the bolt as if it was done by the factory. It will be great to see what her new cloths will look like and see what you finally decide to do to the metal. I am sure it will be great and worthy of displaying.

Take care,
Tye
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Bending the stock bolt is not an option for me at this stage of planning. We're going to lop it off and weld on a pre-made tactical bolt that has a threaded end so we can put whatever lug we want as a bolt knob. It's a big rifle, so I want to go with a big bolt handle and lug to match. Also, it'll help to modernize it just a tad to match the new tactical stock.
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Tye G. Wolfe
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On Target LLC wrote
Bending the stock bolt is not an option for me at this stage of planning. We're going to lop it off and weld on a pre-made tactical bolt that has a threaded end so we can put whatever lug we want as a bolt knob. It's a big rifle, so I want to go with a big bolt handle and lug to match. Also, it'll help to modernize it just a tad to match the new tactical stock.
John...

It sounds like a winning combination. I am really interested in this conversion and can't wait to see some of the pictures of its rebuild.

Take care,
Tye