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On Target LLC
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Customer's gun being tested with rapid fire.
I customized two of these Taurus TCP's in .380, and one worked flawlessly and the other had mag related jamming issues which is common for these small guns. I used Winchester FMJ ammo and Fiochi FMJ. I rapid fired the pink menace at 5 yards and ten feet. These small guns definately take some getting used to.

My wife's Walther P22 that I built for her for Mother's Day!
These are the test shots after I got my wife's P22 all finished. The rear sight was moving freely because I had to order a new spring that goes in the sight housing for adjustments. I shot CCI mini-mags first, then moved to the Federal bulk 550 round box. I had treated the gun to every fix known in the P22 bible. I bought the gun all shot out and used for $100. I got busy on it and had everything cryo'd before polishing internals. This thing shoots every known .22lr ammo imaginable without a tick in it's tock! I shot at 10yards and 5yards rapid firing as a grin wrapped around my head.... it is a fun lil'gun to shoot!
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Tye G. Wolfe
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John...

Those targets as well as the guns are awesome. You really know how to make really big holes out of a lot of little holes. But that is what happens when you end up putting many bullets through the same hole. That same hole does have a tendency to increase in size.

One word.... Excellent!

Tye
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Hey John,


Great job , The Shooting Of A Pro.
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This is Mr. Boyd. He's a concealed carry student of ours and a good customer as well. He has a Sig BlackWater edition pistol and went to the range to give it a workout. He stopped by the shop and showed us his target and we felt it belonged here on the website and he proudly modeled with it. He was working the numbers from the chest up and decided to play with some head shots out to thirty feet.
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Tye G. Wolfe
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John...

That's some pretty good shooting. Ain't nothing wrong with it and Mr. Boyd should be right proud of it in fact.

Take care and good shooting.
Tye
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This is Mr. Mcsweet.... yes, that really is his name and yes he did tell me he got picked on about his whole life, so you guys can knock it off!
He's one of our most recent concealed carry students and he was the top shot out of the class... so his prize is getting his picture on the Range report for all of you to see. He shot the entire 36 round course at defensive distances: 15, 10 and 6 feet.  He did a good job of keeping this centered with the exception of one or two that got just a little outside of his main group. he did this with an EEA Witness in .45acp. He let me shoot his gun and I put some holes in it all the way to the left just above the left shoulder with point shooting from shoulder height. McSweet put another group in the center of the gray, just above the right shoulder with aimed fire. He shot a really nice group at 20 feet. I'd say he shot pretty mcSweet.... sorry..... I mean "pretty sweet!"
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Tye G. Wolfe
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I have to applaud Mr. McSweet. That is certainly a target worth comment.

John, it seems your class brings in some of the better shooters and that should make you feel more than happy. It's great to know we have some of the better shooters taking the steps at becoming carry permit holders. All those who have taken the step at becoming Concealed Carry Permit holders have to understand the commitment that they have taken on. We are those who know that we are actually taking on the importance of protecting those around us even though the ones around us are totally unknown to us. We know that the police cannot be everwhere evertime they are needed but we also have to know when it is right to use that which has been handed us. We have to understand that we should not just enter into every situation with gun in hand. There are those times when it is best to let things go. Throughout the states that concealed carry is legal many armed citizens have stopped many serious crimes. We most importantly need to fully understand that if you pull your concealed weapon that you need to be fully prepared to pull the trigger and possibly take a life in protecting even more lives. This is something that actually goes totally against normal thought yet we have taken on the role of protector. You will have to weigh numerous decisions and outcomes in nanoseconds, just as a Police Officer has to do. You have to remember no decision may be right and no decision may be wrong. You have to decide what is the best path to take and it is not an easy path ahead of you. I can only hope that if you are confronted with a decision of this nature, you are able to face it with the ability to come to the proper outcome. That means entering into every minute of the day you carry with the knowledge that you may have to use your gun. That takes a maturity, understanding, willingness, ability, thought process and overall conditioning that the majority do not posess. I applaud all those who have taken the step to get their Concealed Carry Weapons permit.

Take care,
Tye
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Unfortunately Tye, I have to say that we get people who have never fired a gun in their life coming in to take concealed carry classes. But I will add that they have all qualified. To some degree it is easier to work with them because there are no lifetime of bad habits to deprogram. They usually soak up the material and instruction and do well at the range. I make the inexperienced shooters go last because it lets them watch their classmates go through the paces and exposes them to the "pop, pop, bang" of the other shooters so they aren't so gun shy and spooked when it's their turn. I used to work with an instructor (he's a Homeland Security guy) who ran classes with just over sixty students in them. I was the guy that had the honor of working with the inexperienced shooters who needed more one on one time. I was told that my patience with new shooters made me the natural choice.
I do believe that any inexperienced shooter who wants to take a concealed carry class should go to the range for at least one private lesson first.
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Tye G. Wolfe
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On Target LLC wrote
Unfortunately Tye, I have to say that we get people who have never fired a gun in their life coming in to take concealed carry classes. But I will add that they have all qualified. To some degree it is easier to work with them because there are no lifetime of bad habits to deprogram. They usually soak up the material and instruction and do well at the range. I make the inexperienced shooters go last because it lets them watch their classmates go through the paces and exposes them to the "pop, pop, bang" of the other shooters so they aren't so gun shy and spooked when it's their turn. I used to work with an instructor (he's a Homeland Security guy) who ran classes with just over sixty students in them. I was the guy that had the honor of working with the inexperienced shooters who needed more one on one time. I was told that my patience with new shooters made me the natural choice.
I do believe that any inexperienced shooter who wants to take a concealed carry class should go to the range for at least one private lesson first.
John...

Actually I am quite surprised that the bulk of those taking your Concealed Carry Classes have never fired a gun when they made the decision to get their permit. From what I heard when I took my class most if not all had an extensive background with firearms. Knowing now about those taking your classes I totally agree that they should take some type of begining shooters lessons or at least some type of firarms safety classes. Having them know the functioning of the main types of firearms out there would be a plus. I would also hope that once they do get their permit they take the responsibility handed then with the seriousness that it carries. They should be instructed that continued practice is a necessity so that should they encounter a situation they might be fully prepared for it. I don't know if this is an option but you might try adding on one or two small group training sessions to those who have finished your CC2 class. Have. These one or two small group training sessions free and tell them additional classes are available but at a small fee. That permit they have worked for is very serious and should not be taken lightly. Having worked in a uniformed police agency and knowing that those who have taken the steps to become what in essence could be termed a sort of armed neighborhood watch group, those in said group should be prepared to handle issues at hand or control the situation until uniformed police can intervene.  Having a carry permit is not just another form of identification. It conveys a degree of authority that cannot be taken lightly. In the class I took the instructors approved 2 training sessions in groups of 4 each. I think it was very helpful for all those who took them. I think it especially helped my "EX" in that it supported those things I had taught her as well as the couple that took them with us. I had instructed the couple that took the CCW classes with me. I also learned things myself. No one is above learning from another when it comes to firearms.

Take care,
Tye
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We do offer a FREE Introduction to Firearms and Safety class. We advertise this at the gun shows on two big signs and on our website, but rarely are we taken up on it. Some people think that the CCW class is a magical portal that will sweep them through the time space vortex of all things pertaining to guns and marksmanship and that they will come out of it on the other side as a G.I. Joe combat expert.
The CCW permit class is not and has never been set up as a be all end all depot of gun handling skills. It is pretty much a minimum of what you need to get by and no one in my class is told "this is all you need"!
We stress to each class the importance of more training and practice. There is only so much you can pack as extra into this class in the time allotted.
Tye, I wished I did have the time and resources for me to be able to run free training sessions, but it is at this time not feasible. Monday through Friday 9am to 6pm I'm in the shop working on guns, answering the phone, taking care of drop-in customers and so on leaving me the weekends to run classes. I know that I have to pay my dues and work hard and long hours to keep my business alive and I'll never complain about being too busy.... especially in this hell hole of an economy.
But, as I try each time, I'll do my best to improve my classes and pack as much as I can into the lessons. Also, I will add this.... when my classes go to the range, i only run one student at a time on the firing line so that each student has my undivided attention as they shoot. One on one instruction at the range is the only way that i know the student is getting the max from me. Some instructors will run two or three at a time. I cannot simply do that! I want people to be safe and know what they are doing out on the streets so that we can all be safe and that criminals beware! Nuff' said!
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Okay, i'll admit that i've been going to the range a little more than I'm used to..... wait..... that's a good thing, right?
Anyway, I have a pic or two to share but not much on the old data reporting because this was all done for fun and function testing..... mostly work i tell ya!
This was a head shot with my new .40 cal XD while shooting at 35 feet with Federal FMJ.


This is the result of using Herter's steel ammo at 20 feet with rapid fire trigger work.


I'm proud to show off the V10's porting here. I had no trouble even with the target light off with aquiring the sights while flashing. The directional ports kept flashing out of the way and didn't get in the way with sighting at all. I love this freaking gun!
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John im glad you are enjoying that xd. I knew when I let you shoot it that eventually id have to sell it to ya. However im quite positive that I will be enjoying that 1911 just as much!!!!!
 ‎"its not the caliber, and its not the gun. its how well you perform, that completes the task at hand
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I have been using the XD more lately. I have been target practicing with it, but now I am going to move on to target practice with the Beretta Storm. The Storm is easier to control and the cost of 9mm ammo is a bit cheaper than the .40 S&W rounds. I'm going to take it the range on my next shoot at the indoor range and I will do a report on a few types of ammo.

Keep shooting and have fun while staying safe!
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